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The Exceptional State 10:34's avatar

Thanks for this Rick. I have had some time to think about our conversation and a couple of the interesting points that arose. These 2 points were 1: What is the "exceptional state" and 2: Is Steiner's epistemology pre-suppositionless?

It seems on further reflection that these 2 points are more intimately related than might be initially assumed and that a deepening into the nature of 1 leads to clarity in 2.

I think this could be flashed out in a later conversation, but essentially boil down to the following.

1 The argument that "the brain creates thinking" is philosophically (critically) naive, because the brain is a percept, sensory observation like any other. In essence it is an example of circular thinking that is illuminated when in the "exceptional state"

2 The argument that monism is assumed is a failure to recognize that the naive realism is the initial state prior to knowledge and therefore the correct point from which to initiate an investigation into a (true) theory of knowledge.

3 The argument that this is a Steiner "construct" is actually the experience that one must have of all knowledge if one hasn't lived into the "exceptional state" or more specifically it reflects the extent to which our thinking is Kantian. What seems like a construct for the "normal state" becomes instead transparency, a transparency that is only experienceable if the shadowy world of abstract thinking is replaced with an empirical experience of the activity of thinking itself.

Also I find it "delicious" that the structure of our conversation, which was unplanned, brought these 2 important ideas together. Almost inviting us to allow them to face off with each other.

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Hi! Regarding the point made at about 0:55 - that Steiner assumes that knowledge is possible:

But he says: “it is essential to realize that the activity of producing something in the act of cognition must present itself to us as something *also directly given*. It must not be necessary to draw conclusions before recognizing it”.

(I’m quoting the translation read by Dale Brunsvold which seems much clearer than the RS Archive’s to me. Here’s the passage you read out:

https://youtu.be/XyrWgqv4BKk?si=6v3GDRr5ge4T9F5-&t=4023)

So that’s his whole point, that cognition is at first *found* as part of the given (not assumed) before we realize, at closer inspection, that it is actually not given:

“Real cognition depends on finding a sphere, somewhere in the given, where our cognizant activity does not really presuppose something given but finds itself active in the very essence of the given. In other words, precisely through strict adherence to the given as merely given, it must become apparent that not everything is given”.

"We do knows absolutely directly that concepts and ideas appear only in the act of cognition, and through this enter the sphere of the directly given. In this respect, concepts and ideas do not deceive anyone [like sensory impression can do]"

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